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What about all female military combat units throughout history?

Link: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wo...alion-death-russias-wwi-female-forces-mm.html

I found the Russia had I think the first all female fighting units in World War One...

Fifteen Women’s Battalions were formed around the country. Four communications detachments in Moscow and St. Petersburg, with detachments in Kiev and other cities.
An all-female naval unit was also created. It was estimated about 5,000 women served in these units. Only two, including the 1st Russian Women’s Battalion of Death, made it to the front lines
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Snip... Battalion of Death

The Women’s Battalion of Death was led by Maria Bochkareva. She was a peasant who worked her way into the traditional Russian Army in 1914. She persuaded the Government to put the battalion under her command, and she immediately attracted more than 2,000 female volunteers between the ages of 18 and 40.
Unfortunately, Bochkareva’s strict manner and harsh leadership caused many to leave, with her final tally of volunteers coming to around only 300. These troops first saw action during the Kerensky Offensive, when they faced the Germans. They were occupying a trench alongside a male battalion. When ordered to go over the top, the men hesitated, while the women did not. They made it through three German territory trenches and were later praised heavily for their bravery and initiative. However, this was not a time to win a battle, as they received no reinforcements and were forced to retreat.
Bochkareva remained in control at the front. She was wounded twice, stabbed at least one German to death and was decorated three times for bravery. However, her battalion was later disbanded, as they received hostility from their male counterparts.
The men were upset with the women for not allowing them to retreat in multiple instances.

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A copycat of Bochkareva’s Battalion of Death was the Petrograd (St. Petersburg) Women’s Battalion. There were about 1,400 female participants, and about 200 women volunteering within communications detachments. Their training ranged from reading classes to night time maneuvers to riflery.
Before going to the front lines, the battalion underwent review at the Palace Square. Afterward, however, instead of being sent to the front, they were deployed to defend Government Officials at the Russian Winter Palace.
The battalion refused and instead went to guard nearby supplies. They were overwhelmed by pro-Bolshevik forces, who were fighting within Russia for the overthrow of the current Government. The women surrendered, and afterward many rumors said they had all been raped. However, it was determined three had been raped after the surrender, although many more were threatened with sexual and physical violence.
The women were released following the intervention of the British Ambassador to Russia. They returned to their military encampment.


Here a look at some Russian women combat units from WW One... I bet there have been other all Female combat units in history...
 

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The Amazons of Greek Myth were based on something of fact back thousands of years ago... maybe... You know it they had to the Scythian... or The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan...

Amazons

The Amazons were a race of female warriors in Greek mythology, who dwelt in the region of modern-day Ukraine. Two of the best known Amazon queens were Penthesilea, who took part in the Trojan War, and her sister Hippolyta, who was the owner of a magical girdle, given to her by the god of war Ares. The magical girdle was the object that Heracles had to recover to complete the fourth task given to him during the myth of the Labours of Heracles.
There were no men allowed to live together with the Amazons. However, in order to continue their race, once a year, the Amazons would visit a nearby tribe called Gargareans. After having sexual intercourse with them, the Amazons would return home; they would keep all baby girls that were born, but the male babies were either killed, sent to their fathers, or left in a forest to die of exposure to the elements.
The Amazons appeared in various Greek myths. In one of them, they attacked the region of Lycia, but were fended off by Bellerophon. They later attacked Phrygia, but were also defeated by the defending army, led by a young Priam, who later became the king of Troy. During the Trojan War, the Amazons, led by Queen Penthesilea, helped Priam defend his city; Penthesilea was killed by Achilles during a battle
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Or maybe here...

Herodotus and Strabo placed the Amazons on the banks of the Thermodon (today's Terme river) and Themiscyra (probably close to the modern city of Terme).[27][8] Herodotus also mentions that some Amazons lived in Scythia because after the Greeks defeated the Amazons in battle, they sailed away carrying in three ships as many Amazons as they had been able to take alive, but out at sea the Amazons attacked the crews and killed them, then these Amazons landed on Scythian lands.[28] Strabo writes that the original home of the Amazons was in Themiscyra and the plains about Thermodon and the mountains that lie above them, but that they were later driven out of these places, and during his time they were said to live in the mountains above Caucasian Albania (not to be confused with the modern Albania). But he also states that some others, among them Metrodorus of Scepsis and Hypsicrates, say that after Themiscyra, the Amazons traveled and lived on the borders of the Gargarians, in the northerly foothills of those parts of the Caucasian Mountains which are called Ceraunian.[29]

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Plutarch mentions that the campaigns of Heracles and Theseus against the Amazons took place on the Euxine Sea (the modern Black Sea).[30] According to Pseudo-Plutarch, the Amazons lived in and about the Tanais (Greek: Τάναϊς) river (modern Don river), formerly called the Amazonian or Amazon (Greek: Ἀμαζόνιος) river, because the Amazons bathed themselves therein.[31] The Amazons later moved to Themiscyra (speculated to be modern Terme, though no ruins exist) on the River Thermodon (the Terme river in northern Turkey).

The Amazons were supposed to have founded many towns, amongst them Smyrna, Ephesus, Cyme, Myrina, Sinope, Paphos, Mitylene.[29][8] At Patmos there was a place called Amazonium.[8][32] Also, on the island of Lemnos, there was another Myrina.[8] The cities of Myrina had this name after the amazon Myrina.

Apollonius Rhodius, in his Argonautica (third century BC), mentions that at Thermodon the Amazons were not gathered together in one city, but scattered over the land, parted into three tribes. In one part dwelt the Themiscyreians (Θεμισκύρειαι), in another the Lycastians (Λυκάστιαι), and in another the Chadesians (Χαδήσιαι).[33]
 

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What about all female military combat units throughout history?

Link: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wo...alion-death-russias-wwi-female-forces-mm.html

I found the Russia had I think the first all female fighting units in World War One...

Fifteen Women’s Battalions were formed around the country. Four communications detachments in Moscow and St. Petersburg, with detachments in Kiev and other cities.
An all-female naval unit was also created. It was estimated about 5,000 women served in these units. Only two, including the 1st Russian Women’s Battalion of Death, made it to the front lines
.

Snip... Battalion of Death

The Women’s Battalion of Death was led by Maria Bochkareva. She was a peasant who worked her way into the traditional Russian Army in 1914. She persuaded the Government to put the battalion under her command, and she immediately attracted more than 2,000 female volunteers between the ages of 18 and 40.
Unfortunately, Bochkareva’s strict manner and harsh leadership caused many to leave, with her final tally of volunteers coming to around only 300. These troops first saw action during the Kerensky Offensive, when they faced the Germans. They were occupying a trench alongside a male battalion. When ordered to go over the top, the men hesitated, while the women did not. They made it through three German territory trenches and were later praised heavily for their bravery and initiative. However, this was not a time to win a battle, as they received no reinforcements and were forced to retreat.
Bochkareva remained in control at the front. She was wounded twice, stabbed at least one German to death and was decorated three times for bravery. However, her battalion was later disbanded, as they received hostility from their male counterparts.
The men were upset with the women for not allowing them to retreat in multiple instances.

Snip...

A copycat of Bochkareva’s Battalion of Death was the Petrograd (St. Petersburg) Women’s Battalion. There were about 1,400 female participants, and about 200 women volunteering within communications detachments. Their training ranged from reading classes to night time maneuvers to riflery.
Before going to the front lines, the battalion underwent review at the Palace Square. Afterward, however, instead of being sent to the front, they were deployed to defend Government Officials at the Russian Winter Palace.
The battalion refused and instead went to guard nearby supplies. They were overwhelmed by pro-Bolshevik forces, who were fighting within Russia for the overthrow of the current Government. The women surrendered, and afterward many rumors said they had all been raped. However, it was determined three had been raped after the surrender, although many more were threatened with sexual and physical violence.
The women were released following the intervention of the British Ambassador to Russia. They returned to their military encampment.


Here a look at some Russian women combat units from WW One... I bet there have been other all Female combat units in history...
When I was in El Salvador in 1991 I spoke to some El Salvadorian Marines who said the female guerrillas of the FMLN fought harder then the men. The why ? is rather obvious because what happens to females captured by young teen age males?
There were recently Kurdish females who fought ISIS in Syria. Most definitely surrender was not an option.
During WWII there the Soviet Airforce was the only airforce to have female combat pilot's.
The most famous were the Night Witch's who flew over German positions in noisy bi- planes and drooped small bombs to keep the Germans awake. The women did not wear parachutes because they wanted to carry more bombs.
There was at least on Soviet female Ace and there were Soviet female snipers . Soviet female snipers knew that if they were captured death would be the least of their worries so they would save the last bullet for themselves.
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What about all female military combat units throughout history?

Link: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wo...alion-death-russias-wwi-female-forces-mm.html

I found the Russia had I think the first all female fighting units in World War One...

Fifteen Women’s Battalions were formed around the country. Four communications detachments in Moscow and St. Petersburg, with detachments in Kiev and other cities.
An all-female naval unit was also created. It was estimated about 5,000 women served in these units. Only two, including the 1st Russian Women’s Battalion of Death, made it to the front lines
.

Snip... Battalion of Death

The Women’s Battalion of Death was led by Maria Bochkareva. She was a peasant who worked her way into the traditional Russian Army in 1914. She persuaded the Government to put the battalion under her command, and she immediately attracted more than 2,000 female volunteers between the ages of 18 and 40.
Unfortunately, Bochkareva’s strict manner and harsh leadership caused many to leave, with her final tally of volunteers coming to around only 300. These troops first saw action during the Kerensky Offensive, when they faced the Germans. They were occupying a trench alongside a male battalion. When ordered to go over the top, the men hesitated, while the women did not. They made it through three German territory trenches and were later praised heavily for their bravery and initiative. However, this was not a time to win a battle, as they received no reinforcements and were forced to retreat.
Bochkareva remained in control at the front. She was wounded twice, stabbed at least one German to death and was decorated three times for bravery. However, her battalion was later disbanded, as they received hostility from their male counterparts.
The men were upset with the women for not allowing them to retreat in multiple instances.

Snip...

A copycat of Bochkareva’s Battalion of Death was the Petrograd (St. Petersburg) Women’s Battalion. There were about 1,400 female participants, and about 200 women volunteering within communications detachments. Their training ranged from reading classes to night time maneuvers to riflery.
Before going to the front lines, the battalion underwent review at the Palace Square. Afterward, however, instead of being sent to the front, they were deployed to defend Government Officials at the Russian Winter Palace.
The battalion refused and instead went to guard nearby supplies. They were overwhelmed by pro-Bolshevik forces, who were fighting within Russia for the overthrow of the current Government. The women surrendered, and afterward many rumors said they had all been raped. However, it was determined three had been raped after the surrender, although many more were threatened with sexual and physical violence.
The women were released following the intervention of the British Ambassador to Russia. They returned to their military encampment.


Here a look at some Russian women combat units from WW One... I bet there have been other all Female combat units in history...
A few Jewish women fought in the first Israeli Arab War including the little Dr who's name I forgot but was a sex expert on TV during the 1980s.
The IDF stoped using females in a combat role for decades because Arab men would not surrender to women.
Now there is one mixed battalion of female and male infantry.
One woman who was captured by the Arab Legion was being driven to an officers house so she could become his third wife and she talked the officer out of it and went to a POW camp instead.
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I suppose men are usually the warriors because they're more expendable - which is a pretty cold way of seeing it! However, most men really don't have a problem following a woman general, contrary to popular perception. She will kick bleep! and take no names because she won't need to...men will stop killing after a while but women - not so much!

Those Amazons out of the steppes of Asia scared the Roman legionnaires so bad they refused to fight - and the consequences for not fighting the enemy were pretty dire in the Roman army! (They scared the Mongols even more...the Mongols knew them better!) Wouldn't doubt the Russian ladies were at least partly their descendants.

The Dahomian women's guard terrified the Brits, who didn't scare period. These gals were called 'mothers' and they sure were in quite a different sense - they would rip your throat out with their teeth, which they filed to points. Think the last one of them died a little after WWII.
 

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I suppose men are usually the warriors because they're more expendable - which is a pretty cold way of seeing it! However, most men really don't have a problem following a woman general, contrary to popular perception. She will kick bleep! and take no names because she won't need to...men will stop killing after a while but women - not so much!

Those Amazons out of the steppes of Asia scared the Roman legionnaires so bad they refused to fight - and the consequences for not fighting the enemy were pretty dire in the Roman army! (They scared the Mongols even more...the Mongols knew them better!) Wouldn't doubt the Russian ladies were at least partly their descendants.

The Dahomian women's guard terrified the Brits, who didn't scare period. These gals were called 'mothers' and they sure were in quite a different sense - they would rip your throat out with their teeth, which they filed to points. Think the last one of them died a little after WWII.
I don't know much about that Amazon's. I thought they were just a myth.
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I don't know much about that Amazon's. I thought they were just a myth.
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They weren't actually called that - they were a very fierce and perfectly fearless horde of women who swarmed out of the steppes and right down the Romans' throats. It's thought they might have been from several tribes around Southern Russia, perhaps of Persian or Turkic origin. What their men were doing I have no idea! That area of the world, however, is even today noted for its rugged people. Everybody and his cat is tough there!
 

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Here is a National Geographic Article on Amazons...

LINK: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...herodotus-ice-princess-tattoo-cannabis/#close

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The Greeks located them in the areas north and east of the Mediterranean on the vast steppes of Eurasia. Archaeologists have been digging up thousands of graves of people called Scythians by the Greeks. They turn out to be people whose women fought, hunted, rode horses, used bows and arrows, just like the men. (See "Masters of Gold.")

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They've been excavating Scythian kurgans, which are the burial mounds of these nomadic peoples. They all had horse-centred lifestyles, ranging across vast distances from the Black Sea all the way to Mongolia. They lived in small tribes, so it makes sense that everyone in the tribe is a stakeholder. They all have to contribute to defense and to war efforts and hunting. They all have to be able to defend themselves.

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The one interesting artistic bit of evidence that I did find is a vase that shows a Thracian huntress giving a love gift to the Queen of the Amazons, Penthesilea. That's a strong indication that at least someone thought of the idea of a love affair between Amazons. But just because we don't have any written evidence and only that one unique vase doesn't preclude that Amazons might have had relations with each other. It's just that it has nothing to do with the ancient idea of Amazons.

If you read the article they wore pants and smoked pot....

 

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Riding horses is when men started wearing pants! It wasn't just the steppes people who had women warriors - one of the few battles won by Indians in the Rogue River wars, the general was a lady! (Really upset the US army, too...)
 

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Egyptian had female warriors in the nobility.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/women_01.shtml

The Egyptians recognised female violence in all its forms, their queens even portrayed crushing their enemies, executing prisoners or firing arrows at male opponents as well as the non-royal women who stab and overpower invading soldiers. Although such scenes are often disregarded as illustrating 'fictional' or ritual events, the literary and archaeological evidence is less easy to dismiss. Royal women undertake military campaigns whilst others are decorated for their active role in conflict. Women were regarded as sufficiently threatening to be listed as 'enemies of the state', and female graves containing weapons are found throughout the three millennia of Egyptian history.
 

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What about all female military combat units throughout history?

Link: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wo...alion-death-russias-wwi-female-forces-mm.html

I found the Russia had I think the first all female fighting units in World War One...

Fifteen Women’s Battalions were formed around the country. Four communications detachments in Moscow and St. Petersburg, with detachments in Kiev and other cities.
An all-female naval unit was also created. It was estimated about 5,000 women served in these units. Only two, including the 1st Russian Women’s Battalion of Death, made it to the front lines
.

Snip... Battalion of Death

The Women’s Battalion of Death was led by Maria Bochkareva. She was a peasant who worked her way into the traditional Russian Army in 1914. She persuaded the Government to put the battalion under her command, and she immediately attracted more than 2,000 female volunteers between the ages of 18 and 40.
Unfortunately, Bochkareva’s strict manner and harsh leadership caused many to leave, with her final tally of volunteers coming to around only 300. These troops first saw action during the Kerensky Offensive, when they faced the Germans. They were occupying a trench alongside a male battalion. When ordered to go over the top, the men hesitated, while the women did not. They made it through three German territory trenches and were later praised heavily for their bravery and initiative. However, this was not a time to win a battle, as they received no reinforcements and were forced to retreat.
Bochkareva remained in control at the front. She was wounded twice, stabbed at least one German to death and was decorated three times for bravery. However, her battalion was later disbanded, as they received hostility from their male counterparts.
The men were upset with the women for not allowing them to retreat in multiple instances.

Snip...

A copycat of Bochkareva’s Battalion of Death was the Petrograd (St. Petersburg) Women’s Battalion. There were about 1,400 female participants, and about 200 women volunteering within communications detachments. Their training ranged from reading classes to night time maneuvers to riflery.
Before going to the front lines, the battalion underwent review at the Palace Square. Afterward, however, instead of being sent to the front, they were deployed to defend Government Officials at the Russian Winter Palace.
The battalion refused and instead went to guard nearby supplies. They were overwhelmed by pro-Bolshevik forces, who were fighting within Russia for the overthrow of the current Government. The women surrendered, and afterward many rumors said they had all been raped. However, it was determined three had been raped after the surrender, although many more were threatened with sexual and physical violence.
The women were released following the intervention of the British Ambassador to Russia. They returned to their military encampment.


Here a look at some Russian women combat units from WW One... I bet there have been other all Female combat units in history...
See on YouTube " the rise of Israeli woman in the IDF entering combat units " I24 news.
The IDF has one intergrated male and female infantry battalion the Karakal Battalion. The IDF is planning on more coed battalions.
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See on YouTube " the rise of Israeli woman in the IDF entering combat units " I24 news.
The IDF has one intergrated male and female infantry battalion the Karakal Battalion. The IDF is planning on more coed battalions.
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to my knowledge the IDF skipped that long ago since the men wanted to impress the women by turning real male macho and getting shot 4 exposing themselves.

I also read the IDF considered women to be the better pilots for transport plans and any sort of helicopter
 

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to my knowledge the IDF skipped that long ago since the men wanted to impress the women by turning real male macho and getting shot 4 exposing themselves.

I also read the IDF considered women to be the better pilots for transport plans and any sort of helicopter
The Karakal Battalion is fully operational so it appears for now woman soldiers will be used on the front lines.
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Per the Times of Israel the IDF announced 2k plus woman combat soldiers in 2018.
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What about all female military combat units throughout history?

Link: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wo...alion-death-russias-wwi-female-forces-mm.html

I found the Russia had I think the first all female fighting units in World War One...

Fifteen Women’s Battalions were formed around the country. Four communications detachments in Moscow and St. Petersburg, with detachments in Kiev and other cities.
An all-female naval unit was also created. It was estimated about 5,000 women served in these units. Only two, including the 1st Russian Women’s Battalion of Death, made it to the front lines
.

Snip... Battalion of Death

The Women’s Battalion of Death was led by Maria Bochkareva. She was a peasant who worked her way into the traditional Russian Army in 1914. She persuaded the Government to put the battalion under her command, and she immediately attracted more than 2,000 female volunteers between the ages of 18 and 40.
Unfortunately, Bochkareva’s strict manner and harsh leadership caused many to leave, with her final tally of volunteers coming to around only 300. These troops first saw action during the Kerensky Offensive, when they faced the Germans. They were occupying a trench alongside a male battalion. When ordered to go over the top, the men hesitated, while the women did not. They made it through three German territory trenches and were later praised heavily for their bravery and initiative. However, this was not a time to win a battle, as they received no reinforcements and were forced to retreat.
Bochkareva remained in control at the front. She was wounded twice, stabbed at least one German to death and was decorated three times for bravery. However, her battalion was later disbanded, as they received hostility from their male counterparts.
The men were upset with the women for not allowing them to retreat in multiple instances.

Snip...

A copycat of Bochkareva’s Battalion of Death was the Petrograd (St. Petersburg) Women’s Battalion. There were about 1,400 female participants, and about 200 women volunteering within communications detachments. Their training ranged from reading classes to night time maneuvers to riflery.
Before going to the front lines, the battalion underwent review at the Palace Square. Afterward, however, instead of being sent to the front, they were deployed to defend Government Officials at the Russian Winter Palace.
The battalion refused and instead went to guard nearby supplies. They were overwhelmed by pro-Bolshevik forces, who were fighting within Russia for the overthrow of the current Government. The women surrendered, and afterward many rumors said they had all been raped. However, it was determined three had been raped after the surrender, although many more were threatened with sexual and physical violence.
The women were released following the intervention of the British Ambassador to Russia. They returned to their military encampment.


Here a look at some Russian women combat units from WW One... I bet there have been other all Female combat units in history...
Not an all female unit but the United Arab Emirates publicised a female UAE Airforce Major flew bombing missions against ISIS in Syria circa 2014.
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