A Poster, Slavery and Penny Lane...

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We have all seen this picture of a slave ship and I have the story behind it and more...

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Snip... it was an anti-slavery poster....

One of their most effective actions was to commission an illustration of the Liverpool slave ship the Brookes, named after its owner, Joseph Brookes, and present it to the nation in poster form, appearing in newspapers, pamphlets, books and coffee houses. The horror it showed quickly established the illustration as a hugely influential part of the abolitionists’ anti-slavery campaign.

The architect of the use of the Brookes as political propaganda was the Quaker abolitionist Thomas Clarkson. In The History of the Rise, Progress, and Accomplishment of the Abolition of the African Slave Trade by the British Parliament (1808), he wrote that the ‘print seemed to make an instantaneous impression of horror upon all who saw it, and was therefore instrumental, in consequence of the wide circulation given it, in serving the cause of the injured Africans’.


snip... The Brookes record...

Over 25 years, Brookes’ ship made ten Atlantic crossings, carrying in total 5,163 captured Africans. Of those, 4,559 survived, meaning that over ten per cent of its prisoners died. Records from The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database show that on its 1785-86 voyage it carried 740 enslaved Africans, 258 more than the 1788 poster showed. In 1788 The Regulated Slave Trade Act had been passed, the first British legislation to regulate slave shipping. It limited the number of slaves an individual ship could transport.

snip... Liverpool was the center of slave ship building...

Although Liverpool was late entering the slave trade, by 1740 it had surpassed Bristol and London as the slave-trading capital of Britain. In 1792 London had 22 transatlantic sailing vessels, Bristol had 42 and Liverpool had 131. The Brookes was built at the height of Liverpool’s slave-trading empire and, by that time, the city’s shipbuilders had mastered the art of constructing custom-built slave ships: in the early 18th century the average size of a slave ship was 70 tons; by the end of the century this had tripled to 200 tons.

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Such was Liverpool’s dominance of the North Atlantic slave trade that one in five African captives crossing the ocean was carried in a Liverpool slave ship. The city had the capacity to build bespoke ships to the exact specifications and requirements of the slave merchants. Consequently, the industry employed 3,000 shipwrights, alongside other ancillary trades, such as rope makers, gun makers and those who supplied comestibles to be carried on board
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The article goes into more about Liverpool and slavery like the Beatles song "Penny Lane"... You may not want to learn about its history...
 

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The article goes into more about Liverpool and slavery like the Beatles song "Penny Lane"... You may not want to learn about its history
Penny Lane is a street named after James Penny, a slave trader. However, the street in the Beatles song is just the place where John and Paul had to change buses to visit each other's house and where they would get together. The song had nothing to do with slavery. Your last sentence is very misleading and I believe deliberately so.
 

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Penny Lane is a street named after James Penny, a slave trader. However, the street in the Beatles song is just the place where John and Paul had to change buses to visit each other's house and where they would get together. The song had nothing to do with slavery. Your last sentence is very misleading and I believe deliberately so.
Because I want people to read the whole story of Liverpool and slavery... Penny Lane was a street named for a slave trader... I take a creative improve...
 

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Because I want people to read the whole story of Liverpool and slavery... Penny Lane was a street named for a slave trader... I take a creative improve...
Well, I didn't read the whole story. But I do know the story of the Beatles song. You should leave poetic license to the poets.
 

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1st ammendment?
Indeed, and I exercised it.

The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 

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Then why comment?



Duhh... that was the point.
The comment was made because the OP was attempting to make it appear the Beatles song was about slavery. My point was that was not true. I was not commenting on the article. You should know better than to make a silly knee-jerk reaction to a post.
 

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The comment was made because the OP was attempting to make it appear the Beatles song was about slavery. My point was that was not true. I was not commenting on the article. You should know better than to make a silly knee-jerk reaction to a post.
i certainly didn't understand it like that - 'its' in the last paragraph to me means liverpool's but than my mind is not centered solely around american history
 

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i certainly didn't understand it like that - 'its' in the last paragraph to me means liverpool's but than my mind is not centered solely around american history
Here is what I responded to.

". . .Liverpool and slavery like the Beatles song "Penny Lane"... You may not want to learn about its history..."
 

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Here is what I responded to.

". . .Liverpool and slavery like the Beatles song "Penny Lane"... You may not want to learn about its history..."
exactly - liverpool is the primary object - even in the english language you need a comma to link its to the song
 

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Penny Lane - John Lennon and Paul McCartney knew all about it, and about Liverpool's connections with slavery. On one of his last trips to the old home town, John asked his driver to cruise through an upscale neighborhood of old Victorian style houses. The neighborhood was now black. "You know this, was built by merchants selling slaves," he remarked. "Now it's them who live here!" John wasn't half Irish for nothing - irony was never wasted on him...
 

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Another tidbit about Liverpool - the CSS Shenandoah surrendered there, and James Dunwoody Bulloch and his half brother Ira - navigator of the Shenandoah - are buried there. Their graves are currently maintained by the SCV. (Their sister was also Theodore Roosevelt's mother.)
 

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Tidbit 2: Thomas Dudley's spy network did most of its business in Liverpool, the capital of the Confederate fleet. Over forty blockade runners for the CSA were built on the River Mersey. The cotton merchants of Liverpool formed the unofficial Confederate 'embassy' in Liverpool. The Laird rams were delivered to Birkenhead.

Liverpool has never really been discussed in regards to our Civil War!
 

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Penny Lane is a street named after James Penny, a slave trader. However, the street in the Beatles song is just the place where John and Paul had to change buses to visit each other's house and where they would get together. The song had nothing to do with slavery. Your last sentence is very misleading and I believe deliberately so.
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* If I have to explain it, certain posters here will deride the U.S. and the free world from either a left or a right direction -- it's whatever it takes to muddle the electorate in service of a client entity. Still suppose it silly that would happen in a small niche forum like this one? It's exactly how it works, from the grassroots. Not claiming a "conspiracy" here but calmly advising it's just something to be realistic about. How to handle it? Merely to be aware of it is enough (because we support 1st Amendment expression), not to prohibit it. If you are committed to do more than that, then quickly out the motivations thus short-circuiting the legitimacy of ongoing spin. The general intelligence of posters here will take care of the rest -- notice how overt Confederate apology has taken a vacation here recently -- that particular client no longer getting the easy pass here.
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