War Is Coming Soon with the Russian Bear...

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ukrainian propaganda: coming soon - be fearful enemy

 
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Turkey used leopards II in Iraq and Syria and lost ten to guerilla forces... Turkey left the tanks exposed and without infantry support... it seems Russian anti-tank missiles work... @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer ... will German Tanks burn on the steppes again...




Here is a video about the story with videos of the tanks getting blown up... like 15min in...

 

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Turkey used leopards II in Iraq and Syria and lost ten to guerilla forces... Turkey left the tanks exposed and without infantry support... it seems Russian anti-tank missiles work... @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer ... will German Tanks burn on the steppes again...
says it all - i think the ukranian army is quite capable of using them properly
 

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The United States M1 Abrams has been destroyed in the Yemen war 20 is know of so far...



This has a video of Abrams's inability to get up a frozen hill... it's a thing... US Army knows about it...

 

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The United States M1 Abrams has been destroyed in the Yemen war 20 is know of so far...



This has a video of Abrams's inability to get up a frozen hill... it's a thing... US Army knows about it...

Leopard IIs driven by Norwegian drivers do better than Abrams driven by US drivers from Dixie.


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Given a chose between a Leopard II or Abrams in Ukraine, I'd choose the Leopard II, Elsewhere the Abrams. Either is a very good battle tank.

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well somebody may just have walked there,
I always said if America attacks Iran, some Iranian may walk to Washington DC or NY or Cinncenaty - with a nuke in his backbag

people love walking
 

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there's an ausfuhrgenehmigung (export liscense) for all leopard Is in industry store - again an ammo problem and the bad conditions are the elephants in the room

... and forget that #29 - rheinmetal has another 88 and there are more in industry storage
 
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