FREE STATE of LINCOLN

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Legally it doesn't work that way. The lands were always part of their respective state and the United States. Once they are under US control all federal laws apply including restrictions in the US such has the federal government can not size any land other then eminent domain and then still has to pay fair market value for the land.
If they would have been treated a conquered lands then they could have been treated like territories for they would cease being states. It would go against the perpetual union argument of Lincolns...
 

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If they would have been treated a conquered lands then they could have been treated like territories for they would cease being states. It would go against the perpetual union argument of Lincolns...
that would retroactively declare secession to be legal and indeed make it a war of northern agression
 
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Let not forget the short lived Republic of West Florida ... wiki

Republic of West Florida[edit]
The United States and Spain held long, inconclusive negotiations on the status of West Florida. In the meantime, American settlers, including Loyalists, had established a foothold in the area and resisted Spanish control, leading to a rebellion in 1810 and the establishment for three months of the Republic of West Florida. On September 23, 1810, after meetings beginning in June, rebels overcame the Spanish garrison at Baton Rouge and unfurled the Bonnie Blue Flag. The Republic of West Florida claimed boundaries that included all territory south of the 31st parallel, west of the Perdido River, and east of the Mississippi River, not including any territory that had been part of the Louisiana Purchase.

Spain retained its control of the Mobile District for a few more years, while the United States seized the former Baton Rouge District in December 1810.
 

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@Mike12 , You know the free State Lincoln would have taken a bit of Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, South and North Carolina... Follow along the southern border of Tennessee... form the Mississippi River to the mountains...
 

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@Mike12 , You know the free State Lincoln would have taken a bit of Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, South and North Carolina... Follow along the southern border of Tennessee... form the Mississippi River to the mountains...
Just because I haven't explored every abstract possibility doesn't lend it any credence... Free State of Lincoln.... Alaska...
 

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I haven't explored every abstract possibility
I think you have metaphysically with the English language... I do not want to fetter ... there grass to watch...
 

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Look what I just found out there were a few states that were almost called Lincoln... Wyoming and North Dakota were almost called Lincoln...


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Lincoln is the name for several proposals to create a new state in the Northwest United States. The proposed State has been defined in multiple ways, but can generally be said to be coterminous with the region known as the Inland Northwest. The proposed state was named in honor of Abraham Lincoln, who was president during the American Civil War. His name was also proposed for the states that were eventually named North Dakota and Wyoming.
 

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Here is some more about the Transylvania colony... no mention of vampires there must be a cover-up of history... Danial Boone is involved in it... was he a vampire...


In March 1775 Daniel Boone, working for the Transylvania Company, and a party of about 30 woodsmen blazed a primitive trail from the Holston River in East Tennessee across the mountains at Cumberland Gap to open this area to settlement. Boone's trail, the Wilderness Road, became the main route to the new settlements.

Could Boonesborough have been a town of vampires...


Born in 1735 in Granville County, Henderson became a lawyer and was appointed associate justice of the Salisbury District Superior Court. As early as 1764, Daniel Boone acted as an agent for Henderson’s land company. Henderson retired from the bench in 1773 and organized what became the Transylvania Company in order to develop lands on the Trans-Appalachian frontier. He established the colony of Transylvania with the settlement of Boonesborough on the Kentucky River, though Virginia, North Carolina and the Continental Congress all refused to recognize Transylvania’s attempts to become the fourteenth colony.
 

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You know technical Transylvania was the 14th colony in America... Nice short video but they left out the vampires... @diane

 

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Here was a proposed colony...


Charlotina was one of several new colonies proposed by various socio-political factions in Britain and North America following the Treaty of Paris of 1763. The argument for the establishment of Charlotina first appeared that same year in a pamphlet entitled "The Expediency of Securing our American Colonies by Settling the Country Adjoining the River Mississippi, and the Country upon the Ohio, Considered', which was published in Edinburgh, Scotland. Similar to the Mississippi Land Company's proposal for a new colony in the same area, nothing came of either proposal, due in large part to the expansion-limiting provisions of the Royal Proclamation Act of 1763.
 

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Here is a list of failed colonies in North America... or settlements...


In addition, many of the first attempts at settlement north of the Caribbean failed. Roanoke, Ajacan, Fort Caroline, Sable Island, Charlesfort, Pensacola, San Miguel de Gualdape, Charlesbourg-Royal, France-Roy—all were short-lived settlements in the 1500s. A hurricane destroyed the first Pensacola settlement. Frigid winters and scurvy claimed several settlements; starving settlers abandoned others. Indians laid siege to settlements or attacked them outright. Rebellion by brutalized soldiers or starved African slaves ended two colonies. Settlers were left to their own resources when the founders left for provisions (or for good). In most cases a few surviving settlers made it back to Europe, but in one famous case—the "Lost Colony" of Roanoke in what is now North Carolina—the settlers disappeared with little trace, their fate still undetermined. Most share the dooming factors of poor planning and unrealistic appraisals of the North American environment. Simply put, settling this continent was not going to be easy.


The Spanish settlement of St. Augustine and the English colony of Jamestown were the first European colonies in North America. But before their success, many others failed. “The Spanish had hit it rich in Mexico and the Yucatán, and everyone else was convinced that they, too, could find the incredible riches that must be out there,” says David “Mac” MacDonald, co-author of We Could Perceive No Sign of Them: Failed Colonies in North America. The "Lost Colony" of Roanoke may be the best-known abandoned settlement, but the stories of these seven failed colonies are a reminder of the perils faced by the early explorers, who were often one disease, mutiny or storm away from disaster.
 
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