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I was talking with some left libertarians online and they said wearing a mask is equivalent to the transatlantic slave trade. I said that was pretty insulting and they are not even in the same universe. A Black libertarian had this response:





“So you find nothing at all insulting about forcing EVERY member of the population (almost all of who are well, not sick) into masks that look a lot like slave muzzles —while we are virtually muzzled by widespread censorship of dissent?
” necessary protocol” for whom? According to what evidence?
Having less oxygen and being forced to rebreathe your own waste, and incubate germs in a pocket of high heat and humidity created by a mask — just a minor inconvenience?
Losing facial expressions (both of yourself and others), being unable to read either good or ill intent of a stranger — just a minor inconvenience?
Losing intelligibility of speech, losing human connection is a minor inconvenience?
Add them all up.
Is imposition of any arbitrary dictate like this with zero plausible public safety grounds ( zero scientific evidence) a minor inconvenience?
then adding them to all the other insults inflicted upon us in this long train of abuses and usurpations: jobs canceled, family gatherings canceled, church canceled, weddings cancelled, school and graduations canceled, FUNERALS canceled
(just about everything canceled except rioting and and looting for the “cause” chosen by elites)…
elderly dying alone, canceled health care services, curfews, restrictions on movement, closed businesses, closed public services, shaming, public pillorying, harassment, denial of services, even arrest for not behaving….
LITERAL segregation based on muzzle compliance….
“Just a minor inconvenience”?
I don’t know about you, but my ancestors did this already.
They wore the muzzle.
They were treated like subhumans for looking different.
They were segregated and denied services for looking different.
They had the police called on them for being places they weren’t allowed to be.
I am once again being treated like a subhuman and a criminal.
I am once again being segregated and denied services, because I don’t look like the rest of the muzzled, compliant drones.
I’m having police called on me by so-called public servants who I pay with my tax dollars, because I don’t comply with dictates for which nobody — NOBODY — can state ANY evidentiary grounds whatsoever.
I see the parallels. Do you?
Would the you of 7 months ago have accepted what you are seeing, and complying with today?”



I think it’s about the very American attachment to rights, as in, “I’ve got my rights!” Mix that with the distrust of government among many American libertarians and the distrust of expert guidance and advice, and you end up with the wacky idea that a requirement or even expectation that people should wear masks in public to protect their neighbors is tyrannical or oppressive, a suppression of “My rights!”


What are your opinions about the analogy of wearing a mask to the transatlantic slave trade?
are you some sort of a troll? i need to know that because if you are i have to bann you . thanks cop.gif
 

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your posts have a tendency to start with 'i heard / was talking with / to' 'libertarian' and you never follow up on your questions ... i'm kinda duty bound to some kind of paranoia, don't you think?
 

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your posts have a tendency to start with 'i heard / was talking with / to' 'libertarian' and you never follow up on your questions ... i'm kinda duty bound to some kind of paranoia, don't you think?
I do follow up on my questions sometimes and I have a strong interest in the civil war; sometimes I am uninformed about some civil war topics that libertarians bring up that leaves me confused and I sometimes want input from people who are more informed. This is a good website and the people are knowledgeable and can answer some questions better than me.
 

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I do follow up on my questions sometimes and I have a strong interest in the civil war; sometimes I am uninformed about some civil war topics that libertarians bring up that leaves me confused and I sometimes want input from people who are more informed. This is a good website and the people are knowledgeable and can answer some questions better than me.
a 'thank you' here and there might help
 

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Masks on laypersons are designed to protect the public, not the mask wearer.
As long as civilization existed, authorities would try to prevent epidemic deaths supported by professions while laypersons insisted on spreading whatever the bug was. What I hear are folks that would never let a layperson work on their favorite motorcycle follow the suggestions of layperson about what they should do to live.
 

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about that new vaccine in the pipeline

why is no american mentioning biontech's part in that? a company run by a muslim immigrant who according to his orangeness shouldn't be in our country anyway (not that anybody gives a flying fart on his orangeness anymore, of course)

Şahin was born in Iskenderun, Turkey. When he was four years old his family immigrated to Germany, where his father worked in a Ford car factory. He studied medicine at the University of Cologne, graduating in 1990, and obtained a PhD from the same university in 1993. Following an eight-year residency at the Saarland University Hospital, he joined the faculty of the University of Mainz in 2000, where he became a professor in 2006.
^if they had emmigrated to the us he'd probably be picking pineapples in alaska

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